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Grateful Dead Live at Manhattan Center on 1971-04-05

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Grateful Dead Live at Manhattan Center on 1971-04-05

Topics Live concert

Cold Rain & Snow, Me And Bobby McGee, The Rub, Loser, Playin' In The Band, Big Railroad Blues, Me & My Uncle, Big Boss Man, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Casey Jones Truckin'-> Drums-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat, Sugar Magnolia, I'm A King Bee, Bertha, Deal, Sing Me Back Home, Not Fade Away-> Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-> Not Fade Away-> Turn On Your Love Light

Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Manhattan Center
Location New York, NY

Source Soundboard
Lineage 7inch 2-track BBD reel (dolby A, 7.5 ips) > PCM501ES@ 44.055 kHz > analog out > dolby A decoder > analog in PCMF1 (Beta HiFi) > PCM501ES analog out > Fostex D5 @ 48 kHz > DATx4 > Tascam DA-20mkII > M Audio Delta Audiophile 2496 > SoundForge 6.0 (48-44.1)
Transferred by Dan Stephens


* with John "Marmaduke" Dawson
** first "Sing Me Back Home" ; includes on stage warm up

At least 3 other SHN versions of this show circulate as of
April 14, 2003. All of these copies suffer from unknown numbers of digital audio extractions and various remastering attempts. This seed is a direct copy from DAT WBOTB (11/1996) source. No whine removal, no noise reduction, no remastering, no fades, jarring reel flips left intact.


Reviewer: kboyxxx123 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 29, 2016
Subject: Take a swig
I was there for this bad boy. Angel chicks were walking up and down the aisles and told people take a sip and pass it on. Yippee. Word is it was Owsley OJ
Anyway during Love light it was only a red spotlight on Pig and I swear it was like Dante's Inferno. I mean it that Love light was soooooo intense. Thank you boys
Reviewer: ralberty - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 5, 2016
Subject: 1st Run
2nd GD show and night of being out there and hallucinating dragons emanating from Pigs face an hat to the amps swirling round with wings,,, pheeew it was a heavy night. had a friggin blast. when I hear this show I'm one with an instant smile .. Billy Killed It.. as they all did. certainly a pleasure being in side for this one. never realized just how well they played until later in life when I heard show again.. 45th anniv this yr 2016, Bobby's rhythm in Deal is absolutely outtah' sight.. Goose bumps.. .. ;0)
Reviewer: clementinescaboose - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 3, 2015
Subject: Lovelight!!!
This show as a whole is fine, if a tad overrated; The Other One is just OK imo, though the NFA>GDTRFB from Skull and Roses is very decent.

However, this show features a MONSTER performance of Lovelight, with wild, electric, unhinged jamming and a drunken sounding Pig screaming and shouting at the audience like a maniac! The jamming about halfway through the song is especially awesome, the boys intertwining nicely on a unique theme. Towards the end Phil brings the house down with some thunderous bass playing that is just unbelievable! An all time, 5-star version of this song, possibly the best of 1971.
Reviewer: haitianjack - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 25, 2013
Subject: Cold Rain
This is a beautiful show. Anyone out there know how I can get a copy of this show for my Dad and for myself? Would be much obliged.
Reviewer: projectQ - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 24, 2005
Subject: Quintessential; response to overdubbed vocals
One of Garcia's definitive interviews is the late '71 interview which was released in Jan '72 in Rolling Stone. Garcia is talking about how everyone thought the boys were some "country, light acoustic" band after Workin' Man's and American Beauty. He calls the Skull and Roses album (which is primarily composed of tracks from the Manhattan Center shows) the "prototype Grateful Dead". Were just a "a regular shoot-em-up saloon band". '72 and '73 in my opinion define their height of collective improvisation with a distinct jazz influence in the instrumental jams. '71 is pure fucking roll and roll at its finest!

I wouldn't call it cheating...more like polishing a gem ;-) The boys overdubbed vocals on a lot of cuts on both Skull and Roses and Europe '72. But these two albums capture the Dead at their finest so one can go to the archived recordings and get so much more that didn't make the album because of space limitations, song selection etc. Check out the Trucking-->Epilogue and Prelude-->Morning Dew from the Lyceum 05/26/1972 (last night of the Europe 72 tour). The album cuts are imbedded within Truckin', The Other One, Drums, The Other One, Jam, Morning Dew on the soundboard recording.

07/24/05 I stand corrected ;-) I didn't know the Fillmore East shows from April contributed so much to Skull and Roses. Thanks to rollandfin for the info.
Reviewer: rollandfin - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 3, 2005
Subject: skull and Roses dates
 1. Bertha (Garcia / Hunter) - 5:43
4/27/71 Fillmore East, NY
 2. Mama Tried (Haggard) - 2:43
4/26/71 Fillmore East, NY
 3. Big Railroad Blues (Lewis) - 3:35
4/5/71 Manhattan Center, NY
 4. Playing in the Band (Hart / Hunter / Weir) - 12:24
4/6/71 Manhattan Center, NY
 5. The Other One (Kreutzmann / Weir) - 18:07
4/28/71 Fillmore East, NY
 6. Me and My Uncle (Phillips) - 3:04
4/29/71 Fillmore East, NY
 7. Big Boss Man (Dixon / Smith) - 5:14
4/26/71 Fillmore East, NY
 8. Me and Bobby McGee (Foster / Kristoferson) - 5:42
4/27/71 Fillmore East, NY
 9. Johnny B. Goode (Berry) - 3:44
3/24/71 Winterland Arena, S.F., CA
10. Wharf Rat (Garcia / Hunter) - 8:32
4/26/71 Fillmore East, NY
 11. Not Fade Away/Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad
       (Hardin / Petty / Traditional) - 9:26
4/5/71 Manhattan Center, NY
 Bonus Tracks
12. Oh, Boy! (Petty / Tilghman / West) - 2:50
4/6/71 Manhattan Center, NY
13. I'm a Hog for You (Leiber / Stoller) - 5:20
4/6/71 Manhattan Center, NY

Reviewer: ny dead - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 27, 2005
Subject: duck the bombs
Watch out for Philbombs-look out here comes one-duck!!!!!!!!!!!
Reviewer: jhc - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 8, 2005
Subject: great show - clean version
Not much more to add to other reviewers except to say the live versions on Skullfuck have overdubbed vocals
Reviewer: Sparafucile - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 31, 2005
Subject: Tight Tight Tight .... but puzzling
This is one of the tightest shows I've ever heard. The performance's cohesiveness is simply amazing. But one thing leaves me puzzled -- the NFA is NOT the one from Skull & Roses. It is indeed similar, but the vocals (both Jerry's & Bob's) are clearly different. Which leaves me with one "Ted" Theodore Logan - esque question: which show DOES have the NFA from Skull & Roses??
Reviewer: JoeCamel - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 12, 2004
Subject: Download forsure
one of my favs. Jerry starts yodeling in bobby mcgee, love to hear it.
Reviewer: dr. flashback - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 11, 2004
Subject: Top Ten!
What is it about NYC? Seems whenever the Dead hit town in 1970 and 1971 they played their ass off. This is no exception! Starting off with a blazing Cold Rain this show grabs you by the brain cells and never lets go. Not many 1971 shows satisfy both your boogie needs as well as your trippy needs. This one does, in spades. Pigpen is in rare form on King Bee and Lovelight. And the Truckin>Other One medley has that old 1969 flavor of intensity and color. The NFA>GDTRFB>NFA is the one used on "Skull Fuck".Not very long, but oh, how much they deliver in under 15 minutes! A must have for 1971 and Pigpen fans.The next night is good also, but this one is a killer!
Dr. Flashback ;-)
Reviewer: _darkstar_420_ - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 7, 2004
Subject: Sing Me Back To 4/5/71 PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
The boys' gave it there all on this one. One of the best second sets from 71', Pigpen and Jerry give an unforgetable performance. Incredible sound quality make this show a must have for any Dead Head looking for that eternal bliss,GET IT!!
Reviewer: FT2 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 6, 2004
Subject: The Ain't It Crazy Record Source..?
Back in the early 70's, there was a Live vinyl underground record made from tapes called "Ain't It Crazy", the name of which referred to the cut that started the first side of the record with "The Rub" and China Cat on the second side that is supposed to be this concert. I have the live cuts and it sounds like this is a close brother to the material. I'm not convinced it is that same material based on the way it jams out at the end of the china cat and runs into the I know you ryder. Other parts of it seem identical though. The cut that made it onto the record might even be pieces of the song from different jams and concerts of this time frame that were spliced together into a perfect compilation of what was played during this era. I have yet to find anything live that compares..

Any info for which concert that was or were used on that live collection would be Greatfully appreaicated.

Overlaying the live ambient material with this board recorded source will produce a real gem.

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